LucidBlack by Lucid Trading — No daily loss limit. No monthly fees. Get paid in 3 days.
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If you're a scalper or momentum trader, you already know the problem: most prop firm evaluations have a daily loss limit that resets your account the moment you have one bad trade in the morning — even if you'd normally recover by lunch.
LucidBlack doesn't have one. No daily loss limit. Not on the evaluation. Not on the funded account. You only have a total max loss, and that's it. Trade your way, recover when you need to, and keep going.
Combined with a 60% consistency rule that lets you pass the evaluation in as little as 2 days and a one-time fee with zero monthly charges, this is the evaluation that gets out of your way and lets you trade.
Not every evaluation suits every trader. LucidBlack is specifically designed for a certain kind of trader — and if this sounds like you, it's probably the best fit available right now.
No daily loss limit means one losing trade doesn't end your day. You can recover. Most DLL-based firms punish high-frequency styles — LucidBlack doesn't.
If you trade NQ or ES around news/opens and occasionally take a bigger drawdown before catching the move, a DLL kills your strategy. Here you just need to stay above the total max loss.
The 60% consistency rule on the eval means your best day can be up to 60% of your total profit. Two big green days and you're funded — within 5 to 30 minutes of hitting your target.
LucidBlack is a one-time fee. No subscription, no recurring charges. Take as long as you need to pass — the account doesn't expire.
Let's be real about what happens at most prop firms:
The only thing that matters in LucidBlack is your total max loss — the overall drawdown from your starting balance. As long as you don't breach that, you can trade however you want, whenever you want.
LucidBlack offers three sizes but the $25K and $50K are the sweet spot for scalpers. Here's the full picture:
| Account | Profit Target | Max Loss | Max Contracts |
|---|---|---|---|
| $25,000 | $1,250 | $1,000 | 2 mini / 20 micros |
| $50,000 ⭐ | $3,000 | $2,000 | 4 mini / 40 micros |
Once you hit the profit target, your account activates within 5–30 minutes. No activation fee. No waiting period. You go straight to funded.
| Account | Max Loss | Consistency | Payout Profit Goal | Scaling Plan |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| $25,000 | $1,000 | 40% | $1,500 | ✅ Yes |
| $50,000 ⭐ | $2,000 | 40% | $3,000 | ✅ Yes |
Key things about the funded account:
The 60% consistency rule on the evaluation means your single best day can account for up to 60% of your total profit. This is extremely relaxed compared to most firms (which cap at 30–40%). Here's what that looks like in practice:
Once funded, you need to hit a Profit Goal each payout cycle to request a withdrawal. Here's the breakdown:
| Account | Payout Profit Goal | Standard Max Payout | Bonus Max Payout |
|---|---|---|---|
| $25,000 | $1,500 | $750 | +$750 (payouts 2–4) |
| $50,000 | $3,000 | $1,500 | +$1,500 (payouts 2–4) |
Starting from your 2nd payout, you can earn a Bonus Payout by hitting a higher target. This effectively doubles your withdrawal for that cycle:
There's no extra fee for the bonus — it's automatically available from your 2nd payout onwards.
Here's what a disciplined scalper's journey looks like on a $50K LucidBlack account:
| Phase | Goal | Timeline | Key Metric |
|---|---|---|---|
| Evaluation | Hit $3,000 profit target | 2–5 trading days | Stay above -$2,000 max loss |
| Activation | Account goes live | 5–30 minutes | $0 activation fee |
| Funded — Payout 1 | Hit $3,000 profit goal | 1–2 weeks | Request up to $1,500 (90% split) |
| Funded — Payout 2+ | Hit $5,000 for bonus | 2–3 weeks | Request up to $3,000 per cycle |
At steady state with the bonus, a $50K account can pull $3,000 per payout cycle at a 90% split. That's real money for a scalper working a few hours a day.
| Feature | LucidBlack | Most Prop Firms |
|---|---|---|
| Daily Loss Limit | None | $500–$1,000 |
| Monthly Fees | One-time, no rebill | Monthly subscription |
| Eval Consistency | 60% | 30–40% |
| Activation Time | 5–30 minutes | 24–72 hours |
| Activation Fee | $0 | $100–$200+ |
| Min Trading Days (Funded) | None | 5–10 days |
| Buffer Balance Required | None | $100–$500 |
| Profit Split | 90% | 80–90% |
No daily loss limit doesn't mean no risk management. It means you manage the risk, not an arbitrary rule. Here's how to think about it:
Just because there's no DLL doesn't mean you should risk your whole max loss in one session. Set a personal daily max of 30–40% of your total max loss. For the $50K account, that's $600–$800 per day.
With 4 mini contracts (or 40 micros) on the $50K, you have plenty of sizing flexibility. Start with 1–2 contracts per trade. Scale up only when you're green for the day.
Always have a stop loss set before you enter. On Tradovate, set up bracket orders with automatic TP and SL. See our Tradovate setup guide for how.
The freedom to keep trading after a loss is powerful — but so is the discipline to stop. If you've hit your personal daily limit, close the platform. The account will be there tomorrow.
Once you pass the evaluation, here's what changes — and what stays the same:
The consistency rule tightens from 60% to 40% on funded, which means your best day can be no more than 40% of your total profit for that payout cycle. This is still very manageable — it just means you need at least 3 profitable days to build a payout, rather than 2.